| [03-03 21:36] | [Chat] | Roku: you'll still need gas, nuclear and hydro for nighttime, especially as more fleets of cars/trucks go electric, but oil is going to be done for transportation fuel soon. |
| [03-03 21:36] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: i think eu has banned new gas cars after 2030 |
| [03-03 21:36] | [Chat] | Malice: cars are debateable, but we won't be heating homes with solar or making plastics with it. |
| [03-03 21:36] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: think uk has as well |
| [03-03 21:36] | [Chat] | Malice nods at Roku |
| [03-03 21:36] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: a lot of ti depends on battery tech |
| [03-03 21:36] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: and how it goes in the nxt 5 to 10 years |
| [03-03 21:37] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: i have read about sevearl break throughs with it |
| [03-03 21:37] | [Chat] | Malice: it will get better and better, but so will gas tech... it always does. |
| [03-03 21:38] | [Chat] | Roku: another thing is will the EPA/DoE allow train locos to go with low grade nuclear reactors. If they do, Trucks will be short haul only. |
| [03-03 21:38] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: amercian is the only coturny that has removed push for ev |
| [03-03 21:38] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: epa just recetly removed a lot of regulations |
| [03-03 21:38] | [Chat] | Malice: EV private vehicles are a small part of the puzzle at this point. |
| [03-03 21:38] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: rolled back all th eobama rpa rules for cars |
| [03-03 21:39] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: removed a lot of safe guards for clean air and water now |
| [03-03 21:39] | [Chat] | Malice: Ocean shipping, airlines, heating and cooling, plastics, power gen.... oil isn't going anywhere anytime soon. |
| [03-03 21:39] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: granted i expect states like ny and ca to pass local laws to readd them |
| [03-03 21:39] | [Chat] | Roku: but the economics of solar are pretty simple. it takes 30 years to build a nuclear reactor and $20 billion. $20 billion in solar can be built in 3, and generate far more power (though at the cost of a lot of land). |
| [03-03 21:40] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: well airline have been experiemtning with solar, had a plane flyw 60 days with out fuel |
| [03-03 21:40] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: plastics are made from plants more now then crude |
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