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[06-13 23:44] [Chat] No: and then tell people to download it
[06-13 23:45] [Chat] No: mirc was way late to the game :)
[06-13 23:45] [Chat] Icewolfz: now they make animated gifs that show 1 fram of a girl about ot raise shirt then a birght word
[06-13 23:45] [Chat] Icewolfz: mirc was the popular cient near the middle to major peak
[06-13 23:45] [Chat] Icewolfz: mirc pretty much stoped and was rleased free i think now
[06-13 23:46] [Chat] No: basically the person would think they were downloading boobies.gif but instead were getting the endless stream of zeros from /dev/zero
[06-13 23:46] [Chat] Icewolfz: only irc clients i see an more are from lniux
[06-13 23:47] [Chat] No: I used to use ln -s /dev/null but that downloaded too quick to be real file after mnp5 compression became a thing on modems
[06-13 23:47] [Chat] Icewolfz: the /dev nll stuff is still used
[06-13 23:47] [Chat] Icewolfz: in fact i read an article aout it as a way to deal with ai bots
[06-13 23:47] [Chat] No: still the fastest user level way to drop many GB or even TB of memory use by an app
[06-13 23:48] [Chat] Icewolfz: so the trick istill in use
[06-13 23:48] [Chat] No: mv /dev/null > program/file/cache
[06-13 23:49] [Chat] No: basically on small endian machines it SHL to drop a null on the entire ram segment in memory. on Large Endian machines did a SHR shify right.
[06-13 23:50] [Chat] No: like 2 cycles of CPU to wipe out 1 or a trillion bytes in ram or disk
[06-13 23:50] [Chat] Icewolfz: yeah its used now ot kill ai scrappers
[06-13 23:51] [Chat] No: I saw that MS MDM (formerly intune) uses a DLL of 1.5 MB to do the same if it needs to kill a process and it nulls out the ram a byte at a time, so nothing lives to exec in a zombie side-loader event.
[06-13 23:52] [Chat] Icewolfz: yeah
[06-13 23:52] [Chat] No: takes minutes on a modern i9 with 32GB ram.  :)
[06-13 23:53] [Chat] No: I think the safe way sucks compared to just killing it in milliseconds with unpredictable mem deletion routines.
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[06-13 23:44]	[Chat]	No: and then tell people to download it
[06-13 23:45]	[Chat]	No: mirc was way late to the game :)
[06-13 23:45]	[Chat]	Icewolfz: now they make animated gifs that show 1 fram of a girl about ot raise shirt then a birght word
[06-13 23:45]	[Chat]	Icewolfz: mirc was the popular cient near the middle to major peak
[06-13 23:45]	[Chat]	Icewolfz: mirc pretty much stoped and was rleased free i think now
[06-13 23:46]	[Chat]	No: basically the person would think they were downloading boobies.gif but instead were getting the endless stream of zeros from /dev/zero
[06-13 23:46]	[Chat]	Icewolfz: only irc clients i see an more are from lniux
[06-13 23:47]	[Chat]	No: I used to use ln -s /dev/null but that downloaded too quick to be real file after mnp5 compression became a thing on modems
[06-13 23:47]	[Chat]	Icewolfz: the /dev nll stuff is still used
[06-13 23:47]	[Chat]	Icewolfz: in fact i read an article aout it as a way to deal with ai bots
[06-13 23:47]	[Chat]	No: still the fastest user level way to drop many GB or even TB of memory use by an app
[06-13 23:48]	[Chat]	Icewolfz: so the trick istill in use
[06-13 23:48]	[Chat]	No: mv /dev/null > program/file/cache
[06-13 23:49]	[Chat]	No: basically on small endian machines it SHL to drop a null on the entire ram segment in memory. on Large Endian machines did a SHR shify right.
[06-13 23:50]	[Chat]	No: like 2 cycles of CPU to wipe out 1 or a trillion bytes in ram or disk
[06-13 23:50]	[Chat]	Icewolfz: yeah its used now ot kill ai scrappers
[06-13 23:51]	[Chat]	No: I saw that MS MDM (formerly intune) uses a DLL of 1.5 MB to do the same if it needs to kill a process and it nulls out the ram a byte at a time, so nothing lives to exec in a zombie side-loader event.
[06-13 23:52]	[Chat]	Icewolfz: yeah
[06-13 23:52]	[Chat]	No: takes minutes on a modern i9 with 32GB ram. :)
[06-13 23:53]	[Chat]	No: I think the safe way sucks compared to just killing it in milliseconds with unpredictable mem deletion routines.
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